DeNiro.
Pacino.
Mann.
The only question one can ask about Heat is where it lies in the Top 5 best movies of all time list. Number 1? I would argue that it’s held back from the number one spot by its shitty cinematography. Maybe that’s not the right word. The transfer to video…it looks like crap. Even the Special Edition, All Singing All Dancing DVD looks like shit. Why is this?
Anyone?
In an effort to guage Mann’s true genius I have embarked upon a Mann film festival this evening featuring Miami Vice, Collateral and Man Hunter.
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On September 30th, 2007 at 6:11 pm
Heat is fuckin’ excellent. Michael Mann is a genius. I don’t have the special edition, only the single movie DVD, but I will get it with the new extended footage. It should be #1 as one the best Top 5. On a unrelated matter, Thomas, do you have some special software you can use to make your old movies you’ve done in the past into one? Email me back on that, will you, guy? When is Emma and Kylie coming back? Thanks!
On September 30th, 2007 at 8:08 pm
HEAT was excellent! A very stylish, hip, cool, and atmospheric tale between good and evil. I thought the same for CBS’ Robbery Homicide Division(2002), the TV version of the movie. In my opinion, Michael Mann is a fuckin’ genius and it ranks #2 as one of the Top 5 best movies of all time, but I think Titanic took that title.
P.S.-When is Emma and Kylie coming back? Also, any way you can edit all your movies from the past into one for each of the past models? Email me back on that or tell me something, man! Talk to you later! OBTW, Natalie is smoking HOT! Better than her friend Lola!LOL;), but don’t tell her I said that! Peace, dog!
On September 30th, 2007 at 10:49 pm
I’m sorry, is that some kind of joke? Titanic as one of the best movies of all time? Are you high?
Consider yourself banned from the site.
On October 1st, 2007 at 12:19 am
I never said Titanic was one of the best movies of all time. It might have been the top grossing movie, but I would not say it’s the best of all time. Read what I said again, Thomas.
You’re the one that’s high, guy.
On October 1st, 2007 at 12:49 am
Don’t try and backtrack, you’re still banned. Please delete all your bookmarks.
On October 1st, 2007 at 1:56 am
Are you for real? What’s your problem, man? You asked for thoughts, didn’t ya? Why the hell are you sweatin’ this? You’re not being fair about this at all. I wouldn’t treat you like shit about this, period!
Thoughts and opinions are like assholes-everybody’s got ‘em!
And backtrack? What the hell do you mean? Are you out of your mind? I think you’ve been fuckin’ one girl too many to be a dick about this!
NOW I’M SHOUTING! GET A LIFE!
On October 1st, 2007 at 2:41 am
When you are banned I can’t see your comments, so don’t try and appeal.
On October 1st, 2007 at 3:13 am
So let me get this straight, man-I agreed with you about Heat and have differences of opinions about it, but in the breath that another movie was listed by movie critics(not me) as the best of all time and that makes me banned from your site for just mentioning it?
I don’t get you, man. Why don’t ban other members that don’t share your opinions as well. I’m sure you’ll get flak from them more than me.
That ain’t cool or right, bro. What do need to do or say to get in your good graces again, I’m sorry? Okay then, I apologize.
If that won’t do it and still gonna ban me over this dumb shit, then you ain’t worth it fighting about this, man. Later.
On October 1st, 2007 at 3:17 pm
This is all kinds of lol. Gleekster40, what is with your meticulously well structured sentences that are still littered with ridiculous gangster-speak? THAT ain’t cool or right, bro.
Second, why are you so concerned about this guy - who, if you looked at that disturbing shot of his ugly face in that video a couple a weeks ago and his idiocy displayed here week after week, ISN’T worth it. And whether or not he likes you? Your apology? Get in his good graces? Oh, brother.
And Michael Mann’s Heat as the number one movie one of all time? Wow. Watch more film. Cinematography is suddenly synonymous with a DVD’s transfer? More lol.
On October 1st, 2007 at 4:07 pm
“Cinematography is suddenly synonymous with a DVD’s transfer? More lol.”
If you’d seen Heat you’d understand what I’m talking about — there’s an odd quality to the DVD that must have something to do with the original, but wasn’t present in the original theatrical release. It’s all washed out in a weird way that could be because a) the original cinematography was flawed or b) the video transfer was flawed.
On October 1st, 2007 at 4:33 pm
A) is erroneous. Don’t back pedal, yourself.
The driving point was that Heat isn’t even close to being in anyone’s top 5 except the most glib movie-watchers who still go ecstatic over the “Pacino, De Niro in one movie! OMG!” They’re incredible talents and it may be a fine movie but it’s nowhere but looking somewhat silly in a top 5 list.
Then again, why am I bothering to do this? Here’s a guy who called the Iron Man trailer the best he’d ever seen and was praising the graces of 300 a few months back. As well as posting about Michael Bay’s Transformers! Why even waste my time.
You go have fun and make-up with your little side-kick, gleekster. You two are cute together.
On October 1st, 2007 at 4:46 pm
And show some respect Shmuck, or you’re gonna get banned too.
On October 1st, 2007 at 5:58 pm
Don’t be foolish, Heat is a great movie for fans of a certain type of movie.
Which I am.
And I make no apologies for it. 300 was a great movie as well, Transformers did suck, but if you’ll notice my posts were purely on the technical aspects. And the Iron Man trailer is a fucking fantastic trailer. That you would choose to argue this is just evidence of your truculence.
If you are such a cultured and clever film connoisseur perhaps you’d care to educate us with some recommendations.
On October 1st, 2007 at 8:46 pm
You used the word truculence! My, stating Iron Man is objectively a fantastic trailer - whereas it’s not, and it’s certainly not BEST. TRAILER. EVER as you described it.
A great movie Heat may be but don’t try and negate your response into “for fans of a certain type of movie.” Your narrow and glib, that’s the bottom line.
300 was Snyder’s visual feast, nothing more, nothing less. He’ll likely do Watchmen no justice either. Yet the glib masses such as yourself will pour in.
And since you’re a fan of a “certain type of movie” I’ll leave you to your narrow ignorance and let you enjoy your glib viewpoints. Me doing a laundry list of important and truly first-tier cinema would do you no good. Pop in that 300 DVD and foam at the mouth, then be sure to slip in Heat and gawk at the juxtaposition of De Niro and Pacino in - gasp - the same shot.
Or just fucking ban me, you small dicked and tasteless wonder.
On October 1st, 2007 at 9:09 pm
Why would I ban you, you’re fantastic entertainment.
And I’m calling your bluff, you’re so fucking smart, list some ‘good’ movies. Either you can put out or you are obviously throwing stones from the balcony of your glass house.
For fans of a ‘certain type of movie’ this means heist movies. I like heist movies.
They remind me of what I do to fuck wits like you - I heist your money. Since you can’t get laid you pay me to watch it.
On October 2nd, 2007 at 3:53 am
I’m actually the same guy who hasn’t paid a cent for a porn site ever. Including yours. Anyone with the slightest bit of logic can steal a pass from your site. You bitter, feigning indifference little shmuck.
And I get laid by girls who I don’t have to PAY to lay me. You’re basically ordering prostitutes. The look of dismal pain and oh-so-forced enthusiasm is ridiculous.
Also I could list master-works from back to 1901 that own Heat in ingenuity and excellence. You’d turn it around me and call me a film-snob.
You call my bluff all you want, you glib, easy-to-irritate, glib little man. So very little.
On October 2nd, 2007 at 6:14 am
So it’s like that, huh, Thomas? It’s actually has come to this? Well, maybe Shmuck is right about you after all-you obviously are a selfish, self absorbed, egotestical idiot.
Why you wanna ban me after all I did singing your praises in past blogs? There’s gotta be more to it than arguing over movies. It just don’t make no fucking sense at all.
I have seen the Iron Man trailer too: It ain’t the best trailer, but it’s good and looking forward to it when it comes to theaters.
I’ll still download your videos from AA, but if you don’t want to talk to you anymore because I mentioned briefly about Titanic, that’s fine with me. I only saw it once-hated it! That’s your right and it’s your blog.
It seems petty and ridiculous on your part to ban one of your faithful supporters over a movie. I’ve already moved on and I hope you be man enough to do the same.
So go ahead and ban me ’cause frankly, I don’t give a shit! You’re the joke, moron! I hope somebody blows a flamethrower to your dick and nuts and roast them to a crisp! GO to Hell!
It was nice blogging with you.
On October 2nd, 2007 at 12:16 pm
You’re entitled to freedom of speech as it is in the constitution-but it doesn’t make you guys spell any better.
It probably is easier to get laid if one is paying the girls to perform!
On October 2nd, 2007 at 4:15 pm
“Also I could list master-works from back to 1901 that own Heat in ingenuity and excellence. You’d turn it around me and call me a film-snob.”
So wait a minute, seriously, I’m talking about a movie made in the 90’s and you are going to what, say that it doesn’t hold a candle (literally!) to the masterworks of the Lumiere brothers?
Give me a fucking break.
Also you are banned from using the word ‘glib’. Buy a thesaurus.
On October 2nd, 2007 at 4:41 pm
And, Shmuck, since you are so clever about getting free porn, I took the liberty of harvesting your IP address and sending it around to everybody I know who owns an adult site and we’re blocking the entire part of Ottawa where you live (or post from).
On October 3rd, 2007 at 3:57 pm
Ah, yes. Funny how you can only ride on that one word. Maybe I will pick up a thesaurus so I can attempt to look smart by dropping the word ‘truculence’ when really you’re just a moron. When a word fits the situation, it just fits. Somehow you lend yourself to the sort of mundane, ‘I-carry-myself-as-if-I-know-alot-when-I-know-a-little’ descriptions.
Oh, and look at more name dropping. Yes, let’s generalize the Lumiere brothers as being the only individuals offering excellent cinema. I know early cinema! “Uh…the Lumiere bros.!” Oh, I take it all back! You’re so well-versed in cinema! The Lumiere bros.! Wow. Give ME a ****ing break, lol. Flex that oh-so-pedestrian knowledge of film! Please.
Edwin Porter, Georges Melies, D.W. Griffith, Max Linder… and as time goes on, Buster Keaton, F.W. Murnau, Fritz Lang Carl Th. Dreyer all offered films to me something full of more ingenuity and interest than Heat. And this is all before the 1930s even hit. There’s importance and ingenuity in the films above that deserve that #1 spot far more than any one of Mann’s efforts, as fine as they may be.
Then we have recent films: The Conversation, The Godfather, Apocalypse Now, Fanny & Alexander (and pretty much all of Bergman’s oeuvre), The Third Man, Bicycle Thieves, The 400 Blows, Breathless and the rest of the Antoine Doinel series, Videodrome (and Cronenberg’s latest, Eastern Promises), Blue Velvet, Mulholland Dr., Goodfellas, Taxi Driver, Citizen Kane, Punch Drunk Love, The Royal Tenenbaums…and so fourth. I could do this all day.
Give me a ****ing break with Heat. It shouldn’t be anywhere near the number one list on anyone’s list with any sense. You taking such anger towards this instead of feigning indifference like you did last time I made fun of your small package, is proof of how incredulous you must feel that you are just a senseless, lowbrow little porn site perv. Reality sucks, I know.
Oh, and good luck on that IP ban. I guess revealing just how uncomfortable 100% of the girls look on your site look and that you’re pretty much some ugly shmuck who HAS to resort to his porn site to get laid because no girl will naturally come near him or his little stub. Paying prostitutes, nothing more.
AND you have no sense of film on top of it all! Oh the tragedy of a man.
On October 3rd, 2007 at 8:13 pm
Blue Velvet? Punch Drunk Love? And French New Wave?
Are you fucking kidding?
Hahahahahahahahahha.
On October 3rd, 2007 at 8:16 pm
“You taking such anger towards this instead of feigning indifference like you did last time I made fun of your small package.”
If you were actually clever instead of a mere Wikipedia jockey you’d know why.
On October 3rd, 2007 at 10:51 pm
A man who laughs at the French New Wave - singlehandedly dismissing an entire and highly influential movement - and then thinks simply naming the movement will get him some type of cheap legitimacy. LOL, wow. Did you rush over to IMDB and Wikipedia yourself to try and gain some footing in this?Typing in movie names and doing some over-night research? Seems like that, the way you name-dropped Lumiere Bros. Oh, laughs. All trying to make up for your ridiculously general and hyperbolic comments. Silly, silly.
Oh, and Wikipedia jockey? No, I study film. It’s my ****ing field, much like yours is paying mediocre women to try and not puke and suck your dick. Mine’s a field that emerged out of legitimate and not perverted passion - yours, conversely, came out of the sad fact that no girl probably looked twice at you in high school and hasn’t since. I’d pity you if I didn’t give as much as two fucks. (BTW, I saw your ugly face for the first time in that video a couple weeks back where you didn’t use that obnoxious lighting and with another ugly chick. I was disturbed. It only adds to how hilariously pathetic you are.)
Oh, PS - I haven’t used the not-so-authoriatve Wikipedia to look at anything related to film EVER besides minute trivia. Ever.
And, to finish up this NONSENSE… lo and behold, exactly what I predicted happened. You just wanted me to name some films so that, no matter which I named, you could FORCE yourself to select a few and laugh so you can get yourself out of your own silliness for naming Heat as the number one movie. Typical move. What else can you do? You’ve already shown you’re getting far too wound about this so there goes feigning indifference. So, yeah, you keep trying to get some ground, little man. You try hard. Might be a little impossible in your situation but hey, not going to stop a small-pricked ass make a bigger ass of himself, right?
I know it hurts that I’ve done all this and… on top of the fact, I’ve made a fool out of your “heisting-website” AND demeaned your ridiculous attempt at bragging for banging chicks you PAY off. What a doozy, eh? Try and survive.
Your opinion is trash. Your film sense is trash. I’ve hit a nerve with you, your small pecker and your sense of knowledge. It hurts because deep down you know everything I’ve said is legitimate whereas you’re just shooting out films like Heat and putting them on number one lists and back-pedaling like a grade-A marooon.
It’s been fun but there are far better things to do with my time. You go and write up a little reply that’ll help you sleep better at night and go feverishly look up more common-knowledge film history via Google. Hone that pedestrian knowledge!
What a waste of space. Hang yourself.
PS — I’m gay.
On October 3rd, 2007 at 10:58 pm
“It’s been fun but there are far better things to do with my time.”
Your 50000 word posts indicate otherwise.
And…I’m sorry (not really), I was totally baiting you. I noticed your film snob Hotmail address right off, heh.
On October 4th, 2007 at 4:40 pm
LOL! Now I find this exchange very comically insane! Ain’t this the pot calling the kettle black?
You let this man Shmuck get away talking to you any way he wants to with whatever from trashing both your site and blog to insulting your manhood, and yet I’m the one getting banished over a movie we both didn’t like just by mentioning it. Trifling and hypocritical of you to say the least.
Now I would understand you would ban me over owing you money or insulting your family and friends, but over a movie, guy?
That, I can accept. This, I can’t. Ban over trashing your site and blog, not over a movie, for Christ sake. I would respect you more for that than the bullshit.
At least let me email if nothing so we can be cool again, alright? It’s up to you.
Later!